Zero to infuriated in 0.3 seconds
Oct. 26th, 2012 05:28 pmhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20044862
Lord Bichard, who looks like the sort of person who would say things like that, suggests that pensioners should be forced to work or lose their pensions. This he advances as a logical development from punishing the unemployed for being unemployed by stopping their benefits. Now we shall punish the old for being old by forcing them back into work. I PREDICTED THIS. This is proof if proof were needed that "slippery slope" is not a fallacy.
This smooth-faced, swivel-eyed, gilt-edged unprintable is concerned about people being "a burden on the state."
What is the state? THE STATE IS NOT A PERSON. It feels no pain, it eats no food, it is neither warmed by the sun nor cooled by the rain, it has no senses, and WE ARE NOT HERE TO SERVE THE STATE, THE STATE IS HERE TO SERVE US. People ARE a burden on the state, and it is right and proper that this should be so, because THE STATE IS A BEAST OF BURDEN THAT WE INVENTED TO CARRY US. If we all emigrated to Mars or Narnia tomorrow there would BE no state, and no reason why there should be. (Hopefully we would come up with something better in the new place.) But while there are people here there needs to be a state, and it must serve the people, and servants of the servant like this gink should sit down, shut up, and bloody well show us some damned respect.
No, honestly, Lord Bichard's compassion for the poor overburdened state is moving me in ways I can't even describe. It's perfectly clear that his real concern is that the state will spend too much money on caring for people who can't care for themselves, and then there won't be enough for him. All together. Aaaawwww.
I want to go home.
And while I'm on the subject, I saw Bush giving a medal of some sort to Stan Lee on the telly while an offscreen announcer hymned his achievements (Stan's, not the other guy's) and at the moment when the voice talked about "helping the less fortunate" (being one of the ideals Marvel Comics promoted) I saw the alleged President wink. I don't know what kind of wink it was, whether conspiratorial, sardonic, or simply amused, but I'd very much like to know at whom he was winking, and why at that particular moment.
(EDIT: in the clip
howeird links to, the wink happens at an earlier point in the speech. I can't explain this discrepancy, but the thought does occur that if you were trying to ameliorate a disastrous gaffe recorded on video, it would be easier to cut out a chunk of film (and make the image happen earlier) than to put extra in. In any case, it's hardly worth making a Federal case out of it. At least, if nothing else he did is worth that.)
I really don't like feeling like this.
Lord Bichard, who looks like the sort of person who would say things like that, suggests that pensioners should be forced to work or lose their pensions. This he advances as a logical development from punishing the unemployed for being unemployed by stopping their benefits. Now we shall punish the old for being old by forcing them back into work. I PREDICTED THIS. This is proof if proof were needed that "slippery slope" is not a fallacy.
This smooth-faced, swivel-eyed, gilt-edged unprintable is concerned about people being "a burden on the state."
What is the state? THE STATE IS NOT A PERSON. It feels no pain, it eats no food, it is neither warmed by the sun nor cooled by the rain, it has no senses, and WE ARE NOT HERE TO SERVE THE STATE, THE STATE IS HERE TO SERVE US. People ARE a burden on the state, and it is right and proper that this should be so, because THE STATE IS A BEAST OF BURDEN THAT WE INVENTED TO CARRY US. If we all emigrated to Mars or Narnia tomorrow there would BE no state, and no reason why there should be. (Hopefully we would come up with something better in the new place.) But while there are people here there needs to be a state, and it must serve the people, and servants of the servant like this gink should sit down, shut up, and bloody well show us some damned respect.
No, honestly, Lord Bichard's compassion for the poor overburdened state is moving me in ways I can't even describe. It's perfectly clear that his real concern is that the state will spend too much money on caring for people who can't care for themselves, and then there won't be enough for him. All together. Aaaawwww.
I want to go home.
And while I'm on the subject, I saw Bush giving a medal of some sort to Stan Lee on the telly while an offscreen announcer hymned his achievements (Stan's, not the other guy's) and at the moment when the voice talked about "helping the less fortunate" (being one of the ideals Marvel Comics promoted) I saw the alleged President wink. I don't know what kind of wink it was, whether conspiratorial, sardonic, or simply amused, but I'd very much like to know at whom he was winking, and why at that particular moment.
(EDIT: in the clip
I really don't like feeling like this.
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Date: 2012-10-26 05:06 pm (UTC)The state is something *we* invented to help us ... we're no more of a burden on the state than a skateboarder is a burden on the skateboard.
We already have unemployment, and a younger generation coming through finding it hard to find work ... so forcing retired people to continue working isn't going to make jobs magically appear, in fact it will do the opposite.
This is one of the most barking ideas I've ever heard from a politician (Mitt Romney excepted).
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Date: 2012-10-26 05:47 pm (UTC)But truly, that man is a real piece of work....
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Date: 2012-10-26 06:12 pm (UTC)And just imagine the fun and expense of evaluating all retirees to determine what work is within their physical capabilities.
Not to mention, that whole (previously mentioned) job-market issue. There are a lot of healthy young people out there who'd like to enter it some day.
Here's a revoluntionary idea (not): How about a national service program for them, instead? Help transform them into people with work skills and experience -- and, eventually, into valuable taxpayers.
Seems a much better investment, to me.
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Date: 2012-10-26 06:45 pm (UTC)Actually, no. As an honest etc. tax-payer, I object to people who need help not getting it, in what's supposed to be a civilised society, and I'm completely happy to be taxed as long as that's what's being done with my money.
By the way, I may be missing a point here, but if this is an attempt to buy the vote of people like me.... don't OAPs, the unemployed, and so on, also have votes? One vote each, same as I do? And there's quite a lot of them?
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Date: 2012-10-26 08:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-26 08:18 pm (UTC)http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/282438-1
Awards start with Olivia deHaviland at 12:45, Stan Lee is at 17:24. I don't see a wink, but Lee and Bush appear to be bantering while the presentation text is being read. It was quite a range of recipients, and Bush's last go at this ceremony. IMHO one of the few things he did well.
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Date: 2012-10-27 12:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-27 02:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-27 07:44 am (UTC)I have plenty more substantial reasons why the sight of George W Bush makes me furious. This is just a tiny little detail, and not the sort of thing I would even bother to invent.
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Date: 2012-10-26 09:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-27 03:34 am (UTC)(I normally avoid making jokes on people's names. This is an exception.)