Website down

[avevale_intelligencer]

Having removed all my mp3 files, I am stll 23Mb over Madasafish's 100Mb space limit, and all the other files are tiny, such that to remove enough would gut the site. I have taken everything down for the moment, and am looking for a new home.

One.com offer to transfer the domain for nine quid, and give me three Gb free for a year. What it would be after that I do not know. Is that good, or could I find better? What questions should I be asking? Does the world really need me to have webspace at all?

Comments

[fleetfootmike.livejournal.com]

I can host the site for you if you want - the webserver has about 170G free at present.

No charge and all you need to do is find someone to handle just the domain name bit and point the domain name at my server.

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

That would be excellent. I gather that transferring the domain will involve £, so I'll have to wait for a while, but as soon as I can (and have worked out how) I'll be in touch.

[fleetfootmike.livejournal.com]

You *should* just be able to ask Madasafish to repoint the name server record at my server.

Which website address are we talking about here?

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

www.nyrond.co.uk is the one.

So where should I ask them to point it?

[fleetfootmike.livejournal.com]

highport.altrion.org
81.2.67.130

Might be worth setting you up the necessary accounts etc first. YOu happy with straight FTP?

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

Yes, that's all I use. Bear with me; I don't know how these things go.

[janewilliams20.livejournal.com]

I'm generally looking for a bit more than plain webspace myself (CF server and databases), but these are the people who manage my domain names (though not my hosting):
http://www.easyspace.com/domain_names/domain_transfer
Check the small print at the bottom: "free" isn't, you have to pay the renewal fee for your domain, whatever it may be. Probably £9.50.
After the first year (free), look at their various offerings and see which one works for you.

Far less space, more toys you don't want, but far cheaper: the people who host my site.
http://www.hostingatoz.com/shared_hosting.cfx
Looks like the domain transfer there would cost 10USD or so.

Questions to ask: how reliable are they, what tools do they give you to administer the site (and what do you want? if you're happy using your own editor and an FTP client to publish, you don't need much), what tools do they give you to analyse the logs?

[keristor.livejournal.com]

Note that Hostingatoz's minimum offering is 5GB (at US$7.99 per year), that's 50 times the amount Madasafish are supplying (100MB). That's pretty darn good. (Mind you, Mike's offer is free *g*...)

[janewilliams20.livejournal.com]

No, the 5GB is monthly traffic. The webspace you get for that is 50Mb - rather less impressive.

Mike's offer would be hard to beat, though.

[keristor.livejournal.com]

Ah, in that case the EasySpace 'starter' version would be probably about the same price for 500MB (which he will need if he was exceeding his existing space by that much). If you're storing pictures or reasonable quality MP3s then 500MB is not actually all that big.

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[occams_pyramid]

That is very odd. If all you have is HTML files then 123Mb is gigantic.

Do you have any other type of files in the site? Or maybe there's some log files or similar that grow without limit?

[janewilliams20.livejournal.com]

..or maybe he uses a Microsoft product as his editor? Have you seen the HTML that produces???

Seriously, good point. I used to have quite a large mainly-text website that lived on a floppy disc. 1.23M was more than enough, without moving the decimal point two places.

[keristor.livejournal.com]

I used to have a perfectly good word processor which lived on a 180kB (single sided) floppy together with its operating system[1] (the spelling dictionary lived on another floppy). Are Word or OpenOffice actually 1000 times better than Wordstar 2? (And if you take into account the difference in processor speeds -- another factor 1000 -- it gets even worse.)

But yes, my basic website (less the loads of gzipped tar files holding my backups) will still fit easily on a floppy, and the UK filkcon ones I've done will as well (less the PDF files for the forms and progress reports, but that's because OpenOffice doesn't compress them well).

[1] CP/M. Again, is Win7 (or Ubuntu for that matter) actually 1000 or more times as powerful?

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

In terms of ease of use, I'd say Word was easily worth the extra space. I could never manage Wordstar or anything like it.

The HTM(L) files are about half composed in Notetab and half Dreamweaver CS3. There's no appreciable difference in size that I can see.

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

Well, there's quite a lot of graphics stuff...

[occams_pyramid]

If they are normal web graphics, that would still need an awful lot of files. I'd only expect that kind of size if you were uploading a lot of full-size photos, and resizing to web size in the browser. As I remember, you just had graphics as part of the page design (plus a couple of photos), which should be pretty small.

How do you edit the site? Do you have a local version which you then upload? Or even just local copies of all the graphics? If so, how much space does it take up on your local machine?

[zanda-myrande.livejournal.com]

Well, leaving out the mp3s which were over a gig, I can't make it any more than 60 Mb. So I don't know what was going on there.

[occams_pyramid]

That's still a huge amount of space for a web site. Are there some particularly large files there?

As for the difference, I can only guess. The site seems to be down now so there may be no way to check, unless you can still FTP in and look around?

Could be log files, some big files you uploaded and forgot about, some kind of hack, a mistake by their sizing program, ... ???

[occams_pyramid]

Someone on cix has just had an account suspended for exceeding the space limit, and on investigation "Turns out a pornsite has used his space for storing gigabytesworth of porn."