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Jan's listening to Paul Temple stories now, so I'm hearing an awful lot of the opening and closing bars of "Coronation Scot" by Vivian Ellis, which the Beeb used as the theme. It's become something of an earworm.

It never gets stale. I haven't wanted to be rid of it, not once.

Most people would probably think of it as wallpaper music, easy listening stuff. Light music. Some people on my flist might not even think of it as music, for various reasons. We use stuff up so fast these days, we don't have room to hold it all, and things like this get pushed out into limbo, used by comedians to evoke cosy middle-classness, or ignored or forgotten completely. I've found a whole album of the stuff right here, and recognised nearly every piece as something I heard in my childhood (and one as the tune for a comic song in a Two Ronnies serial: I must remember that one).

But it's good music. A simple rhythm, dum-a-dum-a-dum, the same one they used in Star Trek to indicate rising tension, here put under a simple melody in a major key (pentatonic till it changes key, actually, now I listen), and there it is in the mind's eye; the archetypal British landscape that we associate with steam trains, the one you saw at the beginning of the first two Harry Potter films with the Hogwarts Express chuffing through it. Trees and hills and rivers, under a blue sky with puffy white clouds, and another white cloud tracing the line of the railway from one town to another. All that from a piece of wallpaper music. It works.

Sometimes I get dazed by the sheer wealth of human creativity we have at our fingertips...and amazed at how easily we forget.

Date: 2009-03-31 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
I never knew the name of the Dick Barton music until seeing it on there just now ("The Devil's Galop"), just knew the music. Like so many theme tunes...

Now if I could find the music for "Tales of the Riverbank" (someone once told me it was a guitar arrangement of Bach, but I've never found it)...

Date: 2009-03-31 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanda-myrande.livejournal.com
Wikipedia may or may not be our friend:

"The theme music played on guitar is based on 'Andante in C' by Mauro Giuliani."

And here it is. (http://www.oreshko.co.uk/giulianiAndante.htm)
Edited Date: 2009-03-31 07:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-31 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
Whoo! Thank you! Brings back memories, indeed...

Date: 2009-03-31 08:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akicif.livejournal.com
Oh, wow! Thanks muchly... That's been on my "to track down" list for decades!

Date: 2009-04-01 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
Took me a moment to figure out which tune you meant, and then... in terms of another tune with similar characteristics - and its' own (very rude) set of words - it suddenly came to me:

"A soldier I would be-be-be! To fight for the old ****, fight for the old ****... " (etc.) =:o>

Date: 2009-04-01 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
Have I got the right tune? If it was in C, it would go:

low-G | C G C E G G G, | F G-F E D E F-E D low-G
  | C G C E G G G, | F G-F E D E F-E D low-G | C ...

(Where a hyphen indicates semi-quavers, comma=either a crotchet rest or "make this one a minim", and all other notes are quavers. )


There's a tune I learned in the school payground:
lG | C, lG C, lG | C lG C E G,
D | F, D F, D | F D B D lG,
lG | C, lG C, lG | C lG C E G,
E | F F-F E D, E E-E D C | D D-D C B C,

And the words I learned to go with it were:

A sol-, A sol-, A soldier I would be,
Two pis-, two pis-, two pistols on my knee,
For cu-, for cu-, for curiosity,
To fight for the old count-, fight for the old count-,
fight for the old country!

(It's all in the pronunciation. =:o} )

Date: 2009-04-01 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanda-myrande.livejournal.com
Okay. Now I understand.

The tune you thought I was talking about was not the one I meant ("Coronation Scot") which goes (transing to C):

C, D E, D C D E G E, D C D E G A G A C' E',...

(hence my comment about it being pentatonic, which that other one isn't...)

The one you're thinking of is the one they used for Doctor Caseley's Fin Book, that series about the renowned authority on shark recognition, and I'm not sure what it's called* but it's probably on that album as well. And the one you learned in school is, of course, a free adaptation of the opening of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik by Mozart. (Much too posh for the kind of school I went to...)

*Third movement ("March") of the Little Suite by Trevor Duncan and Leonard Charles Trebilcock.
Edited Date: 2009-04-01 01:38 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
OK... Now I just need to figure out what term I'd mentally transposed with the term "pentatonic". Probably harmonic-something-or-other...? I was thinking of the natural scale of (valveless) brass instruments, which presumably was the medium via which Mozart accidentally spawned a bawdy marching song: G, C, E, G, sort-of-Bb-ish, and C-if-you-can-blow-hard-enough - which is 6 notes, of course, but there's a blues style of composition that, despite not having the restrictions of the humble brass tube, teases the Bb a lot and deliberately avoids ever rising to the C, except possibly on the very last note. I suspect I've heard that style erroneously referred to as "pentatonic" at some point and absorbed the muddlification.

I'm burbling, gimme sleep... [SNORE] =:o}

Date: 2009-04-01 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willibald.livejournal.com
I always feel Coates to be a much underrated composer, being now remembered only for the Dambusters March (which he apparently did not write for the movie but already had 'lying around' when they asked him to do the music.

I still have Coronation Scott and the Devil's Gallop as regular inclusions on the MP3 player

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