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Sparked off by [livejournal.com profile] pbristow:

We are gradually and painfully absorbing the fact that people are neither completely good, nor completely evil, and that portraying them as such in a story is less than plausible. And yet the story we are being told about our food seems, on the face of it, just that implausible. There are "good" foods (vegetables, preferably raw) and "evil" foods (just about everything else) and all the "good" foods are nothing but good for us, and all the "evil" foods keep getting more and more scary stories told about them. I've been trying to think of a health scare story linked to carrots, or cabbage, or Brussels sprouts, and I can't. Red meat, on the other hand, just keeps getting them piled on. Cancer, heart disease, strokes, gods know what all. Now medical experts are apparently saying that bacon is what has given rise to MRSA, and not hospitals at all.

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they. :)

Date: 2007-11-13 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Yet the fact is - and it is a fact - that almost all poisons come from plants, and that, saving Polar Bear's liver and some parts of a few species of fish, animals are edible. This is because plants have had an awfully long to time to evolve poisons to stop animals eating them - since long before mammals, or even mammal-like reptiles, came on the scene.

A majority of plants are either inedible or poisonous. Even some staple foodstuffs - I am thinking here of casava but you could also include potatoes - have to be processed to be edible, and can only be eaten at certain stages of ripeness.

My own, personal, foam-at-the-mouth moments come when some of these so-called experts use the word "nutrients" to mean "vitamins and minerals" when it actually means sugars, starches, fats and proteins! They tell us that sugar "contains no nutrients" and here am I yelling, "Not when I went to school!" And starches, I might point out, are all broken down to sugars in our guts, anyway.

Sorry to take over your rant, which I agree with entirely.

Date: 2007-11-13 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanda-myrande.livejournal.com
No, that's fine. I was expecting to be leapt on, especially for the cheap shot at the end (which gave me a title I just couldn't pass up).

The one I like is when things are touted as having "all natural ingredients." You know, like cannabis, opium, aconite and hydrochloric acid.

Date: 2007-11-13 02:39 pm (UTC)
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Or the cosmetic whose name means "Beautiful lady". Belladonna.

Date: 2007-11-13 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
I lodged for a time with a family who were very into 'herbal' supplements. But they weren't drugs, they said, these were 'natural' from plants. For some reason they objected to me suggesting that I bring some other natural plants into the house, I believe I suggested cannabis and opium...

At their suggestion I tried one of their 'natural' supplements which "helps you sleep". It did, indeed -- until they ran out of it, and I was awake for three days straight...

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