As our language continues to "evolve"...
Oct. 26th, 2011 09:02 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I notice that the phrase "to home in," common when I was a youngster, is now being misreplaced with increasing frequency by the meaningless phrase "to hone in," presumably from some idea about locating a place or a person being akin to sharpening. I expect that, as with most of these changes, nobody has any idea that it hasn't always been like that, and certainly nobody cares.
I look forward with a certain glum fascination to the first reference to "honing pigeons."
I look forward with a certain glum fascination to the first reference to "honing pigeons."
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Date: 2011-10-27 06:34 am (UTC)Given the proximity of 'n' to 'm', and the similarity of shape and sound, and that speeling chequers won't carch it because it's a valid word, as far as I can see it's an uncaught (before publication) typo. If I complaned about "off by one" errors I'd be rightly pulled up on account of the hundreds of those I make. I find their/there/they're and than/that far more common, 'hone' is buried in the noise.
A rant about the low esteem in which proofing is generally held by publishers is, however, something I support...
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Date: 2011-10-27 02:52 pm (UTC)But (also referencing
And I remember at the turn of the century the proliferation of alternate spellings of 'millenium' and the people insisting that 'milenium' or 'milennium' were correct. Doing a Google search at one point returned more incorrect spellings than correct ones (it's impossible to tell now, because Google 'corrects' what it thinks is an incorrect spelling and mixes them up -- I just tried with 'milennium' and it responded with 144 million matches compared to the 871 thousand for the correct spelling, but then displayed matches for the correct spelling mixed in).
In fact it's been happening all my life, some people just can not get it, the rest of us just ignore them (or in the case of some of your examples decide that a company which puts out that sort of erroneous spelling and refuses to correct it is probably not one with which we want to do business). The way some people do seem to be responding to the errors by telling the companies that they look stupid with misspellings is probably acting as a control on their proliferation. Like most things, cmplaining to the place wher the error occurred will do a lot more good than ranting on a blog which they probbaly don't read...
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Date: 2011-10-27 03:07 pm (UTC)In the case of "another thing/think coming", I suspect that both are right, and that those arguing that only one is correct are wrong. Both phrases have probably been in use for long enough that they are both common, probably in different areas. Similarly with "I could/couldn't care less", I've interpreted the former as an abbreviation with implied "but not much", and again it's been around longer than I have.
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Date: 2011-10-27 02:17 am (UTC)I don't like these either, but...
Date: 2011-10-27 04:12 am (UTC)The idea that "evolution" is a process of improvement is, in biology, a leftover from the thought that Homo sap. is the crown of creation, and everything prior to him (male pronoun used intentionally here) has been aspiring to this supreme status upon earth, just a step lower than the angels. Which is hogwash. Species adapt to the needs of their environment, or perish. Languages change too. And in both cases much of the change, at the low-level short-term view, is random or almost so.
Some of these are eggcorns, where a single word, a compound, or an idiom that no longer makes sense is revised to SEEM to make sense. The eponymous eggcorn was the reinterpretation of "acorn" (huh? why "A"? why "corn") to "eggcorn" in dialects where the pronunciation was barely different or identical ("egg" as "aig"). Now it seemed to make at least partial sense: an acorn is shaped like an egg, once its cap is removed. Who cared that it came from Old English ... WHOA! I went to OED, and the story is orders of magnitude hairier than I'd thought!: All I'd known about before was that late underlined bit.
Whew! Anyhow... no point in crying over spilled phonemes. Πάντα ῥεῖ (panta rhei) "everything flows".
And I to my bed, much later than I had meant to.
Re: I don't like these either, but...
Date: 2011-10-27 06:08 am (UTC)[1] Except that it does have a point...
Re: I don't like these either, but...
Date: 2011-10-27 09:33 am (UTC)And you know that I think the idea that evolution is the correct concept to be applying here is just as hogwashy, and in a way just as arrogant, as that other belief, once commonly held among wise and intelligent people. I look forward to the day when we see both ideas in the same light.
"Eggcorn" is an interesting concept, but I think I personally prefer the term "mistake." (Which of course is not to say that mistakes are a bad thing or that everyone has to speak perfect English or that there is even one clear idea of what perfect English is and public schools and BBC and colonialism and snobbery and how dare I and blah blah blah blah blah and blah.) Everything may flow, but if my chair flows under me I get it fixed or get a new one.
Words are chairs. We rely on them for support.
Words are bricks. We build our lives out of them.
Words are power tools. We need to control them or people could get hurt.
But words, above all, are ours. They belong to us, and we must look after them.
Re: I don't like these either, but...
Date: 2011-10-27 12:02 pm (UTC)I will point out the evolution as improvement to a "higher" state meme was very common a hundred years ago, but is pretty much shaken out of biology now.
Eggcorns are so common...
Date: 2011-10-28 12:55 pm (UTC)http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/
And are distinguished from mondygreens which are sort of the same but different...
(All that stuff I learned for the linguistics paper at university: gone now...)
Michael Cule