I had to go have a quick listen to Sir Jock of the Sword mark 1 to verify that you were talking about what I thought you might be talking about. (Because I do much of my listening in the car, I haven't heard that particular song very often; it has enough dynamic range that when I have things set to where the loud parts don't blow my ears off I can't hear the quiet parts over the car noise, so I skip it. This is partly because I have an unusually noisy car, and not particularly good hearing; I have this problem with songs on other albums too).
It might be helpful to people coming across this song if you made the ASHA connection (and what ASHA is) clear in the introductory material.
Also, I'm a little puzzled; among other things, wouldn't someone from ASHA not mention science (in the sense of natural philosophy) in Sir Jock of the Sword's times? I mean, if he thinks the rhyme about London Bridge is too modern, wouldn't references to science be likewise? And the term "flying saucer" was coined in the 1940s or so, so wouldn't that be too modern too?
And also why would someone from ASHA have a problem with idols? Those are perfectly period. Likewise cranks and priests. (Depending somewhat on the specific type of crank or priest, but this guy seems to have taken against them all.)
So this song seems to be from the point of view of an emotionless person pursuing a quest founded on science and reason, not against anachronism, but against untested beliefs in idols and ancient gods, with hellish wrath for priests and cranks and the spurious glory of idle notions, a person who sneers and sniggers and uses highly polished insults.
I recall you making these accusations before, but not about ASHA. Hence my confusion.
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Date: 2011-10-09 11:43 pm (UTC)I had to go have a quick listen to Sir Jock of the Sword mark 1 to verify that you were talking about what I thought you might be talking about. (Because I do much of my listening in the car, I haven't heard that particular song very often; it has enough dynamic range that when I have things set to where the loud parts don't blow my ears off I can't hear the quiet parts over the car noise, so I skip it. This is partly because I have an unusually noisy car, and not particularly good hearing; I have this problem with songs on other albums too).
It might be helpful to people coming across this song if you made the ASHA connection (and what ASHA is) clear in the introductory material.
Also, I'm a little puzzled; among other things, wouldn't someone from ASHA not mention science (in the sense of natural philosophy) in Sir Jock of the Sword's times? I mean, if he thinks the rhyme about London Bridge is too modern, wouldn't references to science be likewise? And the term "flying saucer" was coined in the 1940s or so, so wouldn't that be too modern too?
And also why would someone from ASHA have a problem with idols? Those are perfectly period. Likewise cranks and priests. (Depending somewhat on the specific type of crank or priest, but this guy seems to have taken against them all.)
So this song seems to be from the point of view of an emotionless person pursuing a quest founded on science and reason, not against anachronism, but against untested beliefs in idols and ancient gods, with hellish wrath for priests and cranks and the spurious glory of idle notions, a person who sneers and sniggers and uses highly polished insults.
I recall you making these accusations before, but not about ASHA. Hence my confusion.