One of the things about all the stand ups doing stand up stuff on tv, is that they are doing their stuff to get noticed and to make the widest range of people laugh (which of course belittling and insulting people does, because it's ironic!), rather than doing crafted stuff to make people interested in their style laugh. I'm not sure if I made that point clearly, struggling with getting words in the right places. Basically, with so much competition for this style of comedy it means many people are just going to cheap, easy laughs.
I think what you are saying about the Two Ronnies version is right. I heard about this when it originally happened, and if fact made a complaint after seeing it, which is not necessarily something that I will often do, even if I mean to. I can't load that page right now, but I expect it says that once again trans people don't deserve not to be mocked and it's ironic anyway and oh shut up, you are just looking for something to be offended by.
I heard a very astute comment about Ricky Gervais recently, "Does he ever tell jokes, or does he just say what he really thinks and then smile." Which is a style of 'comedy' which thanks largely to him has spread and spread.
Ok. I'm going to stop rambling here. I have too many thinky thoughts and not enough brain to express them.
Oh, I will say that I had thought RH was alright before because he was one big name comedian today who did comedy that wasn't just about reinforcing stereotypes and putting people down and was less lazy with his comedy than some others. Since this I have avoided his work completely.
no subject
Date: 2011-06-12 10:42 am (UTC)I think what you are saying about the Two Ronnies version is right. I heard about this when it originally happened, and if fact made a complaint after seeing it, which is not necessarily something that I will often do, even if I mean to. I can't load that page right now, but I expect it says that once again trans people don't deserve not to be mocked and it's ironic anyway and oh shut up, you are just looking for something to be offended by.
I heard a very astute comment about Ricky Gervais recently, "Does he ever tell jokes, or does he just say what he really thinks and then smile." Which is a style of 'comedy' which thanks largely to him has spread and spread.
Ok. I'm going to stop rambling here. I have too many thinky thoughts and not enough brain to express them.
Oh, I will say that I had thought RH was alright before because he was one big name comedian today who did comedy that wasn't just about reinforcing stereotypes and putting people down and was less lazy with his comedy than some others. Since this I have avoided his work completely.