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avevale_intelligencer ([personal profile] avevale_intelligencer) wrote2007-07-04 03:51 pm

Possibly NSFW discussion of a term that gets on my nerves

I wondered how long it would be before someone brought in the masturbation metaphor to describe our discussions on Doctor Who...does anyone ever talk about "football wank" or "political wank" or "real ale wank," or is it just sf fans who get that? And is it possible, in these relatively enlightened days, that masturbation still carries in some quarters the "unnatural act/sin against the Holy Ghost/self-pollution" stigma that's implied by the comparison?

Because it is implied, let's make no mistake about that. When people talk about "fandom wank" they are not describing people indulging in a harmless and pleasurable act which is practiced by (I would imagine) the vast majority of human beings at some point in their lives. They mean to belittle us. They mean to insult us. They mean to be offensive, and they succeed. They mean to turn the passion that we bestow upon our hobbies into something squalid, something dirty, something to which no decent human being would ever stoop.

Our language is rich in words and phrases to describe what happens when people let their passions run away with them, when they lose perspective in focussing on a single issue, when tempers run high and things are said that should not have been said. This happens in all areas and walks of life, to all manner of people. Why should it be that one particular group of people, whose attention is given to particular forms of literature and drama, when they fall into this error or even when they do not, should be smeared with a playground epithet from the sucking pit of Victorian sexual repression?

I suppose it's all part of the standard bigoted view of fans as spotty unhygienic teenage boys who spend too much time reading books and not enough time getting drunk in gangs and bashing members of the minority of their choice. But it seems a little...disappointing, shall we say...when other fans support and sustain the stereotype by using terms such as this to describe each other.

I used to think Wanks were comedy

[identity profile] exhpfan.livejournal.com 2008-07-15 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to think most people who participated in Wanks over on Fandom_Wank were good comedians, even when they did a wank about me. I enjoyed the wank and laughed at myself. Now I'm not so sure anymore. Not only do they intend to insult, belittle, and be offensive as you point out, they are very insecure in their own lifes. If a person they have perviously wanked just stops into their journal and says "Just wanted to say Hi" they go absolutely badshit.

When I did this, the guy accused me of sending him a email claiming I was going to steal his identity. Of course I didn't know what he was talking about, but I did discover that Wankers were some pretty crazy and freaky people who should be avoided at all cost.

They can make fun of you for weeks or even months, but they can't take even a small one time joke about themselves.

Wanker really is a good term to describe who they are. I don't think they know why this term fits so well, but it does.