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avevale_intelligencer ([personal profile] avevale_intelligencer) wrote2010-04-11 08:53 am

Cri de coeur

So two of my friends, as case-hardened fan critics (if I may say so) as you could wish to meet, are in floods of happy tears over last night's episode and I'm thinking...

...I'm thinking the same thing I thought when I saw "Rose" and read comments saying how wonderful it was that Doctor Who was finally back. I'm thinking what's wrong with me?

Because it's got to be me, hasn't it? It must have been me all the time.

Don't you think I want to be enraptured? Do you honestly think my pride, or some twisted sense of superiority at being the only one marching in step, is more important to me than the magical feeling I still get watching old Troughton and Pertwee and Baker episodes I nearly know by heart? I'm asking because I don't know the answer myself any more. I don't know why, when everyone else is looking at this and seeing their childhood favourite triumphantly returned, all I see is...nuWho. The mixture as before. New boss same as the old boss.

I'm like the lame kid at the end of "The Pied Piper of Hamelin." It doesn't matter how often I tell myself that I'm the lucky one, I get to live in the real world. All I know is that all those other kids were going somewhere really wonderful, and I got left out.

And if I was right the first time, and this new series is really that much better, and the only reason I can't see it is because the first incarnation of nuWho broke my connection and I can't get it back...then it'll be a cold day in hell before I forgive Russell T Davies for doing that to me.

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-04-11 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly because you loved the old series so much? I didn't. In fact, I only liked bits of it and was never in love with it - and that is the same thing I felt, right from the start, about the RTD era, I have been very critical of much of NuWho and, indeed, gave up watching it over the last full season and most of the specials. But I like this new doctor and this new companion, and this has never happened before in the whole of NuWho.

It's the same way I didn't like ST:TNG or Voyager, but liked classic Trek and DS9 and the reboot... Not in love with any of them, but happier with some that with others.

[identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com 2010-04-12 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
I agree (oh gods, I'm agreeing with you again! Must stop this *g*). I've never been a 'fan' (in the sense of "fanatic, must watch every episode live, know everything about every character and actor and date aired and preferred taste in underwear") of any show. With Doctor Who I certainly missed whole stories, and may have missed whole seasons, of the original (many of which I caught on re-runs, often out of order and still with gaps). When people talk about the 'best' or 'worst' ones most of the time I don't even remember them. (OK, I liked Jon Pertwee's Doctor -- but I liked Pertwee, and as the Doctor because he was Pertwee. I didn't like Tom Baker largely because he wasn't Pertwee.)

So with NuWho I'm largely treating it as a new show, which stands or falls on its own (de)merits. When I have disliked it that's been because it hasn't stood up to its own standards, characterisation, continuity, etc. I'm basically not making a comparison, just as to me it isn't reasonable to make comparisons between the earlier versions (comparing Hartnell with McCoy or Tom Baker is IMO silly, the only connection between them is that it was ostensibly the same show).

To me, DW has always had the jarring change in the person playing the Doctor, I can't think of any who I've liked in the first few episodes after regeneration because they were 'wrong' until I got back into the "OK, different show with the same name". The same with Tardis changes between seasons (although at least this latest one gave a plausible reason for that -- the thing also goes through regenerations, and we just haven't seen one happen before). I feel the same when a show I've liked is re-shot with someone else in a lead role but ostensibly the same character (killing off the old character and replacing them with someone different isn't nearly as bad), or when they make a TV series out of a film but with different actors.

Is there something 'wrong' with people who don't feel the same way as me? Obviously, they aren't me, that can't be allowed! But no, unless I go into full solipsism (where did all you zombies come from and why am I imagining you?) I can't actually support that either. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations is much more acceptable to me. To each their own. Whatever floats your boat. Like, do your own thing, man, it's all cool...

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-04-12 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's it. It's all about investment.

Trouble is, when people agree with you about a show, it comes as a shock when they change their minds and you don't change yours.

Keris, we really must be careful or we'll lose our reputation for being at opposite ends of the spectrum on everything!
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[personal profile] aunty_marion 2010-04-12 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Or you'll end up at such opposite ends that you'll meet on the other side...