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avevale_intelligencer ([personal profile] avevale_intelligencer) wrote2005-07-22 01:08 pm
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I am in a world of squee just at the moment.

Not only did the song go down amazingly well (and thank you [livejournal.com profile] cadhla for inspiring it and everyone who responded!) but when I went to MVC this lunchtime they had a box full of CDs and DVDs whose cases had been damaged in their recent flood, all going for 99p. So now I have thirteen episodes of Raffles, a couple of half-series of Xena, the entire final season of X-Files, the second half of Sapphire and Steel (which we have on tape but I'm trying to clear some shelf space) and several other goodies for a total outlay of 9.90. Which, even at this end of the month, for that lot, I could manage.

Etymological note: can anyone help me with a derivation, or any info at all, on the word (sp?) "thoyle"? It's a transitive verb, and seems to mean "feel one can afford," and Jan uses it a lot so it is probably either Fenlandish or Yorkshire. I've been curious about it for a long time but never got round to checking before.
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[personal profile] aunty_marion 2005-07-22 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I know "thole", but as far as I know it has a meaning of "won't take that"/"won't stand for that" - as in "I can't thole {you not wiping your muddy wellies when you come in}" (or something similar). Yorkshire-ish, I feel....

[identity profile] sodzilla.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Might be Yorkshire, yes, or somewhere else that Vikings settled... it sounds suspiciously like the Swedish "tåla" which has the meaning of "bear" or "stand for" in the context you describe.

[identity profile] zanda-myrande.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. The construction is similar "I can't thoyle that" and the meaning is within bowshot. Jan definitely says "thoyle" though...
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Thole is a possibility I guess

[identity profile] the-magician.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Main Entry: thole
Pronunciation: 'thOl
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): tholed; thol·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tholian -- more at TOLERATE
Date: before 12th century
chiefly dialect : ENDURE
1. A wooden or metal pin, set in the gunwale of a boat, to serve as a fulcrum for the oar in rowing.
2. The pin, or handle, of a scythe snath.
3. To bear; to endure; to undergo.
4. To wait.
5. a holder attached to the gunwale of a boat that holds the oar in place and acts as a fulcrum for rowing.

Re: Thole is a possibility I guess

[identity profile] tnatj.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that there could be a reasonable dialectical vowel shift:

thole --> thoyle

isn't too distant, particularly if the OE is indeed tholian. I can easily see the i being swapped or replicated to the left of the l. And what did the Great Vowel Shift do to thole?