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avevale_intelligencer ([personal profile] avevale_intelligencer) wrote2017-01-15 09:47 am

Why?

[livejournal.com profile] greygirlbeast likes the new Star Wars film, Rogue One, because it's "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark."

I'm glad she likes it...but really, does *EVERYTHING* have to be "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark"? Does one even go to Star Wars for "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark"? Are there not hundreds, thousands of other story 'verses out there that are "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark"? Are people still making good, well-told films for grown-ups that are not trying to be "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark," that are trying to be positive and bright and hopeful and visible to the partially sighted?

There is a place for all kinds of stories, beyond the promptings of passing fashion. In these coming days I predict that we are going to rather go off "raw and gritty and dirty and very dark." There'll be too much of that all around us. We'll be looking for a Frank Capra de nos jours, to tell us that in spite of everything there is goodness and light in the worlds.

In the meantime, I don't think I'll be making a point of seeing Rogue One. I go to Star Wars for a very specific kind of experience, and that...if Aunt Beast is right...is not it.

[identity profile] mundungus42.livejournal.com 2017-01-15 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I adored Rogue One. I went in pretty much unspoiled and felt that the darkness and sadness was in no way out of character with the rest of the Star Wars world, it was just more detailed. I mean, when Alderaan was destroyed in A New Hope (a pretty freaking dark thing) , we didn't see extended scenes of Alderaanians going about their business, or any of the denizens/leaders resisting the Empire on their homeworld. In Rogue One, we saw those things. In Star Wars, we never saw the inevitable fissures between factions that would arise in a motley Rebel Alliance because everybody that advocated different strategies was no longer part of the Alliance, and in Rogue One, we saw how it got to that point. I think what made Rogue One an ultimately hopeful movie for me that we actually saw the characters struggle with figuring out the right thing to do and whether or not they felt it was their job to do it. I felt it was like the very best fanfiction: it took what we knew about the Star Wars world and interpolated an absolutely cracking story with interesting characters from what was already there, but unexplored. And the best part? Rogue One made me laugh while it tugged on my heartstrings, and for me, that's what makes the difference between a movie that's showing you the dark side of what's already there and a movie that's being dark for darkness's sake.

Plus... heroes of color! A blind gay (or so says the actor playing him) Force ninja! Alan Tudyk's hilarious turn voicing a droid! Darth Vader being effing terrifying! Definitely plenty there to make it Star Wars, IMHO.
Edited 2017-01-15 18:39 (UTC)
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[identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com 2017-01-15 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You put that so much better than I did :D

[identity profile] weebleflip.livejournal.com 2017-01-15 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll second mundungus on all of the above!

Sad and dark at times, but focusing on the heroism, friendship, trust, hope, and willingness to make sacrifices for the freedom of others, in spite of the darkness.

Also really good to see a relatively diverse cast - gender, colour, accent...